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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2016 20:15:49 GMT -5
Hey guys, I think this ban has been made without any respect for me, if you have a doubt, take a demo, review it and ban me if you really think i cheated. I've been a QAW regular for years under Madrasta and Jazzyj, and I stopped playing on QAW server like 2 years ago maybe... cameback today to see my old server I'm =F|A=FrostedFlake, (Fearless assassins), same as Renegade pig, razi, the Gooch and a lot of player I already saw on your server back in the days. fearless-assassins.com/user/19047-frostedflake/If some of you know F|A clan, you will know that their tolerance on cheaters is inexistant, so how would they let me in ? I never ever cheated on any games, and as a clan (QAW) I think it hilarious to ban someone just because he has a spree of 40 on one of your map, like come on guys, I have respect for people with maybe a little less skills but it's no reason to ban me because I kill them... I remember playing with so much of you guys, can't even believe you do that kind of stuff and with all the respect I have for every member of your clan and your clan itself, if this is the way you treat people, it's the most unfriendly process I saw in a while. Thanks for you time Jazzyj, Madrasta, FrostedFlake
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Post by hoff{QAW} on Nov 28, 2016 20:29:39 GMT -5
I'm the member who banned. I don't know you... for future reference, you were not banned for your spree. Members will be reviewing your demo, If it turns out you are clear, I will adress the proper appologie. As far as you participate in a clan with zero tolerance for cheaters, you will understand the process. We thank you for your patience.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2016 20:58:26 GMT -5
No problem, I know you banned me hoff, but you fought me one map ago, and killed me plenty of times. The difference between our process and your process is that you ban before having proof and analysis and we get proof and analysis before banning people. I'm not mad, it's your rules. I just think it's wrong. It could have been a more fun comeback to your server Cheers
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Post by tonofclay{QAW} on Nov 28, 2016 23:27:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the wait while we reviewed, ban should be lifted.
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Post by hoff{QAW} on Nov 29, 2016 6:52:03 GMT -5
Members have agreed on there's no reason to keep you banned. I apologize for the inconvenient.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 11:44:57 GMT -5
thanks for your time
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Post by Relevance{QAW} on Nov 29, 2016 19:05:41 GMT -5
I know this is over, but thought I should add that ive played with FrostedFlake before. And I can tell you I believe he is a skilled player, and does not cheat.
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Post by Slaughter{QAW} on Nov 30, 2016 11:15:02 GMT -5
You have been a regular here for awhile and you should know our process. It is out of respect for OUR clan and OUR server that we handle it the way that we see fit. We do not wait to collect a bunch of evidence first so that the suspected hacker can clear our server and ruin the fun for everyone. I understand your position and respect the way that you do things for YOUR clan but OUR clan does things differently and coming here to reprimand us for OUR way is not the way to keep respect around here. If OUR way didn't work I don't think we would be as successful as we have been for over 12 solid years now. I know many clans that have come after us and some that were before us that are no longer around or have such a great community to be a part of. I understand your frustration and the ban has been lifted but understand that you have come across wrong to a few of us in this particular incident. You are more than welcome here but please wipe your feet(check the attitude) before stepping into our house. Also we have an intolerance for hackers but have been fooled by some of our own in the past so it can happen.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 17:02:03 GMT -5
Hello Slaughter: To me I've been very delicate on how I wrote my post, you have to be able to take an harmless critic/opinion/point of view sometimes.
It's easy to say to someone he has an attitude when you are not getting what he is getting. No, I do not agree with 1 of your process, that doesn't mean I'm against your clan... You see a process that fits and I give you a different point of view, that's it, that's all.
Tbh no I didn't know your ban process even being regular for years on your server, never got a ban before in years of playing. If you never had a slap for something you didn't do then i encourage you to try to see how it feels. It doesn't feel like respect. If real life would work like that we would jail every arab as suspected terrorists.
You have plenty other rules that I respect because it's YOUR house as you said, but when Rele, as example, step into my house, I treat him better that i've been on your server 2 days ago, and to be clear that's not even a blame, i'm just telling you how it feels when you slap someone you think does something bad without knowing.
Never said your way didn't work, I loved your server for years, but still somethings can get sharpened sometimes, giving a different point of view could get you into thinking about you ban process, and how it's wrong to me.
Every clans get fooled, but to me it's no reason to have such fear.
Peace
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Post by Slaughter{QAW} on Nov 30, 2016 19:46:58 GMT -5
With all due respect, you are not right here and trying to prove that point is meaningless. We use to do it your way and it would clear our server out for days and as you know, an empty server is not a happy one. We have gone through various processes and honed it for our server and it works for us, had this happened a few years back you probably wouldn't have even gotten a demo review or an apology. Again, it's not just me that took your "opinion" in a negative light. If your post is delicate, I would hate to see otherwise. Coming in here without saying much to us as a clan and then demanding respect when we hardly know you seems absurd. We do appreciate those that have stuck with us throughout the years but as you said, you haven't been around for a couple and we really don't owe you anything beyond the basic respect, which you received. I've been banned off plenty of servers for others behaviors and I certainly didn't feel warranted to go to their forums and tell them they are wrong or that I wasn't respected. I simply laughed and moved on. As it is, you were treated the same as everyone else that we have banned and found to be innocent, with an apology issued and the ban lifted. What this has to do with arabs is beyond me and the topic at hand, we aren't witch hunters looking for any excuse to ban people. You were told it wasn't for your kill spree as you aren't the first to have a high numbered spree. I'm sure you say you don't know the process but to say you have been a regular for years and not know is unbelievable to me, then again you aren't active on our forums so I will give you the benefit of doubt. We have regulars that just started 6 months ago that know our process. We have treated everyone with respect until they give us a reason not to but we aren't going to bow down to everyone that feels disrespected because they got the ban hammer. I personally have no issue with you or your clan and all are welcomed here.
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