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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2008 20:14:59 GMT -5
Hey we are just playing a II W W game and there is a history behind it! Movies: Auschwitz Shoah Night and Fog Runnaway from Sobibor Make urself interested in these things
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Post by J_Bourne{QAW} on Apr 5, 2008 20:32:39 GMT -5
Well if you want to know about the classic WWII movies you've come to the right place.
Patton The Longest Day The Great Escape The Big Red One Schindler's List La Vita é Bella Bataan Bridge on the River Kwai Tora Tora Tora Sands of Iwo Jima Stalag 17 From Here to Eternity To Hell and Back Battle of the Bulge Von Ryan's Express The Dirty Dozen Where Eagles Dare Battle of Britain Midway A Bridge Too Far Das Boot Sophie's Choice Memphis Belle The Tuskegee Airmen Band of Brothers Downfall Saints and Soldiers Ike: Countdown to D-Day Letters from Iwo Jima The Counterfeiters
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Post by Baca{QAW} on Apr 5, 2008 21:28:34 GMT -5
Band of brothes is awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2008 1:25:06 GMT -5
Personally I recomend Shoah, means holocaust in jew. Theres a totally 9 hours movie full of interviews that make urself introduce in the way the ppl lived those moments and those places
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Post by jfro on Apr 6, 2008 9:23:37 GMT -5
Oh yeah J knows the films!
SAving Private Ryan Bridge on the river Kwai Great Escape Schindlers list In which we serve
are prolly some of my faves.
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Post by J_Bourne{QAW} on Apr 6, 2008 13:39:47 GMT -5
Saving Private Ryan is meh. I liked it the first time I saw it but now each time I see it I like it less and less. I think what got everyone on the bandwagon at first was its level of realism, it was the first war movie that really looked like that. Once you are used to that kind of film making the movie losses a lot of its initial draw.
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Post by Ivanhoe{QAW} on Apr 6, 2008 14:17:48 GMT -5
Watched most of that JB, but thx for the list cos now its DL Time!!! ;D
Don`t know if you watched russian IIWW movies like Battle for Moscow. That film is AWESOME!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2008 14:51:15 GMT -5
Most of the movies J_Bourne and me gave, were not hollywood movies... Most of them try to show how the Holocaust was a technical way of killing ppl. Death factories.. private ryan shows the incursion...(bad english) or the way USA get into the war and fight the nazi state. The point with those movies is not ur entertainment, is the emobodied of those experience and places. make urself sure to realise these.
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Post by J_Bourne{QAW} on Apr 6, 2008 16:36:07 GMT -5
You seem to be very interested in the holocaust. That was a huge part of what happened during the war and some of the movies in this thread show it very well (Schindler's List, Life is Beautiful, Band of Brothers, and one very moving portion of The Big Red One). However, it was not the only event that happened in the war. We tend to forget these days that there was really very little knowledge of what was going on in Germany and the occupied territories. Certainly it was widely known that the Nazis were being very discriminatory and racist but few people really imagined anything like what happened. For that reason alone it is important for all future generations to know as much about it as they can.
The war itself is also very important. The movies I listed cover a wide range of topics. Some cover the war from the perspective of the soldiers (Memphis Belle, The Big Red One, Band of Brothers, Battan, Das Boot). Others from the perspective of the Generals (Patton, Ike: Countdown to D-Day), other are a combination of these (The Longest Day, The Battle of the Bulge, Torra! Torra! Torra!). An addition that I should make is a movie that showed the aftermath of the war and the war crimes trials at Nuremburg (Nuremburg, staring Alec Baldwin).
There is one story that has not really been told to any great extent that, probably more than any of these movies, deserves to be told. That is the story of how the Nazis were able to come to power, how they were able to convince so many people to go along with them. To my knowledge, it has only been done in passing within some of the movies here but I can't think of any that adress the topic directly. If anyone knows of any I'd love to hear about it.
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Post by J_Bourne{QAW} on Apr 6, 2008 16:45:47 GMT -5
On a side note, if you want to read some great novels about the Holocaust I recomend the following:
Night (which I am sure you've read) The Reader Gabriel Allon Series
Non-Fiction book that reads like a novel: The Key To My Neighbors House.
There is also a great book about Japanese internment in the US during the war: Farewell to Manzanar.
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Post by jfro on Apr 6, 2008 17:00:06 GMT -5
Ummm some of the Nazi propaganda films may interest you J. I imagine you have heard of The Eternal Jew and there is also Triumph of the Will. Triumph of the Will is just one big long film of the Nurembourg ralley. And The Eternal Jew is probably the most racist film you will ever see.
And some other films from the war.
US ones could try: Destination Tokyo Mrs Miniver (Its American but about and English family :S )
Umm British: This Happy Breed (this is about the interim period) Target For Tonight (bring on the RAF babay!) I was a fireman (exactly what it says on the tin) 49th Parallel (about a Nazi u-boat crew)
German: Kolberg (produced towards the end of the war but is about Napoleon, i think it was to calm the population down about the allied forces invading germany to keep their hopes up) Jud Suss (another racist german propaganda movie)
Or Russian: Ivan the Terrible (Set in about 1600 i think, another non-directly war related film)
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Post by J_Bourne{QAW} on Apr 6, 2008 17:03:11 GMT -5
Exactly! There is such a fear of making anything from that perspective that the only thing I've ever been able to find are things like those. I think we will start to see some in the future though, Downfall, about Hitler's last days, is an excelent start.
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Post by MaCi{QAW} on Apr 7, 2008 5:38:09 GMT -5
Add "Stalingrado" to the WWII movies' list
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Post by Corvus{QAW} on Apr 7, 2008 10:12:02 GMT -5
yeah i know i am kinda late, I think there isnt a movie in this post that isnt in my home right now ;D Except for Fro's input, i only got the two from top (Eternal Jew and 'Triumph des Willens') ... Sophie's choice, that is an indirect input of some very scarry feeling that everyone could feel. I censorred myself at home because I cant see it without crying and feeling desolated. I almost feel as misserable as when i saw the pianist. I mean -> the part when the Polish jewish mother held her baby obove her head to save it from drowning in the sewer But still, even after a chat yesterday, i think the first post is too focussed on the horror and terror. My input is also too focussed the effect of the movie on the watcher. I could not emphasis that enough in a discussion related to our contemporary history. But speaking of ET in relation to WW II is a more militairy one. Indeed Stalingrad is a way to get informed of the other side of war. Yep, u got me, i was for the German soldiers. I am too sentimental i think. I still hate the end of it. When i was in Wannsee(dont forget to check the post of J-Fro about his trip to Berlin-> photo's) i saw this horrifying exposition, 2 other concentration camps i visited made me loose my control over my nerves. I just collapsed, cried and shrank into a misserable peace of human being. My professor had to give me a cigarette to get out of that phase (lol and i dont even smoke cigarettes) Even when i tell it now in the classroom i start shaking in body and voice, and if students making fun of it i get sad, not mad, very sad. To conclude, my grandmother had a jewish woman at her attic to help her to the end of the war. That same grandmother got from a german Wehrmacht soldier (working at the station) little coals for her just born baby to wash in the winter of 1944. That baby was my mother. They got liberated by the Canadians and my father got chocolate from the US soldiers. But none of my family ever spoke of the sacrifices that the Polish and Russian soldiers and people made to defeat and weaken the Third Reich. There couldn't be enough education about it i think
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Post by jfro on Apr 7, 2008 12:43:15 GMT -5
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Post by Corvus{QAW} on Apr 7, 2008 19:06:17 GMT -5
thanks Fro
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Post by Ivanhoe{QAW} on Apr 8, 2008 3:37:02 GMT -5
There is one story that has not really been told to any great extent that, probably more than any of these movies, deserves to be told. That is the story of how the Nazis were able to come to power, how they were able to convince so many people to go along with them. To my knowledge, it has only been done in passing within some of the movies here but I can't think of any that adress the topic directly. If anyone knows of any I'd love to hear about it. try this TV movie made for a VIASAT History (I think) www.imdb.com/title/tt0346293/
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Post by InsectWhore on Apr 12, 2008 17:21:03 GMT -5
..and what about Bambi?
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Post by J_Bourne{QAW} on Apr 12, 2008 20:37:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2008 16:52:27 GMT -5
dont forget ...
The Guns of Navarone (like Battery map) Force 10 from Navarone Tora! Tora! Tora!
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Post by nizmo on Jun 20, 2008 11:30:31 GMT -5
I enjoy Saving Private Ryan still to this day, allot of classics are great to.
Band of brothers was dam good the team that made it are currently working on a new Mini-series called The Pacific another WW2 series just about the pacific theater....should be good.
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Post by !jared!-tothemax- on Jul 5, 2008 4:37:02 GMT -5
I thought Enemy at the Gates was well done. Thats more recent. Jude Law and Rachel Weisz.
Oh, and if you are into anime, The Grave of the Fireflies.
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