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Post by karnkiller on Apr 13, 2011 14:26:18 GMT -5
Hello All.. quick question. What is the etiquette for allies using the backdoor on Battery, how many people do you think should have to be there to use it? (It can be near impossible to defend both sides with small numbers.
Was wondering because we were playing last night 6 on 6 and we didn't take the backside, but then it was pretty easy for axis to defend only the front.
Anyways, just wanted to see what everyone thinks on the matter, Take Care!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 15:50:20 GMT -5
Five or more.. im knocking on the backdoor!
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Post by <AL>{QAW} on Apr 13, 2011 17:45:50 GMT -5
axis should fall back to gun imo........only one thing to guard there..
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Post by H0neY {QAW} on Apr 13, 2011 17:48:56 GMT -5
axis should gall back to gun imo........only one thing to guard there.. What about the cookies on the hospitality cart? Allies'll take those over that gun any day. If all the players can agree on the back door, I say let that guide them....some don't care about the odds and other just want to get the map over with.
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Post by I3lessed on Apr 13, 2011 20:54:29 GMT -5
IMO just ask at the beginning of the map and ask if allies are using the backdoor or not. Like Nikki said 5 or more I use the backdoor generally. Unless axis team is weak.
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Post by Dire.Wolf{QAW} on Apr 13, 2011 22:22:55 GMT -5
yeah, 4 or less imo should be back door or less lose one player or 2 and you lose defending gun with just a few is over the first time axis lose a firefight there - allies plant and defend it just once and boooooooom but wait, i spose that what usually happens... but really, 4 or less, no back door
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Post by Porridge{QAW} on Apr 13, 2011 23:36:56 GMT -5
Five or more.. im knocking on the backdoor! LOL. Nice. ;D I've got a dirty mind. !slap porridge Sweet Lucy was a dancer But none of us would chance her Because she was a Samurai ....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2011 16:56:46 GMT -5
Porridge! your mind is a gutter! lol was funny though!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2011 7:37:09 GMT -5
I dont use back unless its 5v5 or more. The only problem is some stupid person on allies wont listen and will do it anyway! Totally annoying.
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Post by .SchLe*{QAW} on Apr 15, 2011 10:34:52 GMT -5
a 5 vs 5 would be good to be using the backdoor. But if its a 4 vs 4 and they all deceided not to use backdoor PLS PLS axis leave the arty away...
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Post by DIG{QAW} on Apr 18, 2011 21:36:34 GMT -5
maybe !nobackdoor with 4 vs 4 or less, but without axis covie or axis arty
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Post by SpaceAge_Pimp{QAW} on Aug 12, 2014 11:59:19 GMT -5
As requested in-game, I'm bumping this up. I was not present (this time), but apparently folks were bickering about the back door again.
To summarize:
5v5 = back door is OK, not any less. If a game is less than 5v5, then becomes 5v5, I personally think it's honorable for Allies to call out that they're going back (...prior to planting...), but maybe it should be assumed that its open by default once 5v5 is reached.
CP is always ok to build for either team.
Lastly, there was another thread about whether a uni'd covy can enter back (with teammates) with less than 5v5, I personally think 'yes' since it was originally-intended gameplay (same principle as covy and FuelDump), and if axis can't v10, and/or carelessly go down to the beach, then you DO deserve to be infiltrated xD -- THIS rule is undefined and probably should be agreed on either way.
Have fun......be good.
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Post by Cmdo.Delta on Aug 13, 2014 10:14:19 GMT -5
I thought this was NOT a rule but a player agreement isn't it?
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Post by H0neY {QAW} on Aug 13, 2014 18:34:54 GMT -5
I thought this was NOT a rule but a player agreement isn't it? correct. whatever the players agree to is generally accepted.
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Post by Cmdo.Delta on Aug 14, 2014 11:30:51 GMT -5
I thought this was NOT a rule but a player agreement isn't it? correct. whatever the players agree to is generally accepted. Yup so if some random people join and don't agree, there is no reason for bickering lol. Too much people seems to think that this is a RULE and get frustrated when someone doesn't agree and get back door even with low amount of players or unbalanced team (the worst is like 3 vs 4 -> axis being down 1). I totaly agree it sucks when someone does that but... we have to live with it! Most bothering thing is people not replying at all and going back. bringing so much confusion in axis ranks lol!
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Post by SCOUT on Aug 15, 2014 0:04:05 GMT -5
Some people are not so gentle-manly. I mean, some people are not so much like Porry. What I mean is, I blame Matador.
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Post by Cmdo.Delta on Aug 15, 2014 13:56:52 GMT -5
I knew it was Matador.... I knew it...
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Post by SugarBear on Aug 25, 2014 11:02:51 GMT -5
I thought the magic number was 6, not 5..... but then again, my memory ain't what it use to be.
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Post by oZ{QAW} on May 17, 2015 14:09:52 GMT -5
I say we just forget about this "agreement" and make it "anything goes" regardless of the amount of players. Lately there seems to be a tendency for regs to change the agreement depending on what team they are on during the game. Examples: blowing back door for "xp only" using satchel when allies have one more player (3 vs. 2) etc. This of course is only cause for aguments during the game. Maybe we should just frag on happily ever after with no "agreement". Just my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 15:43:47 GMT -5
^ Agreed. Unless it's a rule, it will always cause arguments.
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Post by SCOUT on May 17, 2015 20:02:09 GMT -5
I say we just forget about this "agreement" and make it "anything goes" regardless of the amount of players. Lately there seems to be a tendency for regs to change the agreement depending on what team they are on during the game. Examples: blowing back door for "xp only" using satchel when allies have one more player (3 vs. 2) etc. This of course is only cause for aguments during the game. Maybe we should just frag on happily ever after with no "agreement". Just my opinion. +1
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Post by Corvus{QAW} on May 18, 2015 9:33:17 GMT -5
Personally i have no problem with dropping the agreement and embrace the "anything goes" in this situation. If we do so we have to be communicative about it on forum and server. We may have a little argument in the begining with those who arent used to our change, but we can explain that with the same elan that we explained the agreement before. About that 'happily ever after frag' i am a bit worried myself though. The map can be over very quick, i already see myself loosing with zero frags and praying the map to be over soon People also might leave because of the 'feeling' of unfairness in a 3 vs. 3 (or uneven). Then the map after it 'the more the merry' isnt the adagium. It's good to have an open discussion here where every regular participating on the server can read and speak about it.
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Post by Cmdo.Delta on May 18, 2015 11:41:22 GMT -5
Well if people wants the agreement at beginning of battle and everyone is ok for it, I have no problem playing with it. But if some people doesnt want to play with it, people should not complain. There is no official rule for this so no one can be "forced" to play with it. It's true at some point it would be just easier to give up with this because if people join during the game, it can takes lot of time to explain it and some of them could decide they dont want to respect it which leads to verbal fight and arguing. And it's not really the goal of the game to spend a whole match talking for something that is not written anywhere lol.
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Post by tonofclay{QAW} on May 18, 2015 11:47:15 GMT -5
I'd say we just drop the mention of it and stop complaining if somebody happens to use the satchel or back. If there are regulars playing they may all decide on their own not go back or use satchel, but if someone decides to blow the ramp or dyno the back, just go with it and don't spent the rest of the map complaining about the "rules"
EDIT: I see cake beat me to it while I was typing, so yeah what she said.
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Post by oZ{QAW} on May 18, 2015 15:06:41 GMT -5
I do think we should enforce the No hair pulling and no eye poking rules with less than 5 players tho!
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Post by Cmdo.Delta on May 18, 2015 15:25:20 GMT -5
I do think we should enforce the No hair pulling and no eye poking rules with less than 5 players tho! I think we should not ENCOURAGE ton to stack team at any time and prevent Oz from playing when I'm around cuz I know he tends to kick noobs from the server and I'm really afraid of being his next target..
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Post by mcbain{QAW} on May 18, 2015 17:22:24 GMT -5
I think we keep the rule as is. I don't see any "arguments" beyond people typing to each other about what they thought the expectations were. Don't get bent out of shape about people talking to each other. Of course it works best if you can type out the agreement on the rules before map begins.
I suppose this is the same as "knife only" matches that happen when no one else is on the server. Sure someone will start to shoot you, but you tell them what is up and if they don't listen, the knife battle is open...no one cries about it. IMHO
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Post by mcbain{QAW} on May 18, 2015 17:24:28 GMT -5
BTW - if you are on axis, it is your duty to have at least one spawn back to build cp anyway so you can check to see if they are attacking back and holding up their end of the bargain.
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Post by Cmdo.Delta on May 18, 2015 17:40:26 GMT -5
This is not a "rule" mcbain. This is just an agreement we take at beginning of the game. Go read server rules. It's not written anywhere. So it's not mandatory.
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Post by oZ{QAW} on May 18, 2015 18:30:03 GMT -5
Exactly it is not a rule, which is why Im just saying forget about trying to get ppl to respect the agreement. and McBain,you probably don't see the arguments since you are normally not there when there are few ppl on (early afternoons), otherwise I would not have bothered to put this here. Im just suggesting this to have less headaches when trying to have some fun
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